Comments on: The BIM Handbook (Book Review) http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/ A Forum for AECbytes Readers Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:43:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Leka http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26095 Leka Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:00:49 +0000 http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26095 Gosh! This is what I was looking for. I mostly agree with you, that this book is an excellent book (for universities) worth having. I would like to use it as a reference material for my course in application of IT in Architecture. I have already ordered a copy for my department. Keep on enlightening us on the issue.......Viva BIM I am an ArchiCAD, Revit, Tekla user/learner. Gosh! This is what I was looking for.
I mostly agree with you, that this book is an excellent book (for universities) worth having. I would like to use it as a reference material for my course in application of IT in Architecture. I have already ordered a copy for my department.
Keep on enlightening us on the issue…….Viva BIM

I am an ArchiCAD, Revit, Tekla user/learner.

]]> By: Stefan Boeykens http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26093 Stefan Boeykens Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:27:32 +0000 http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26093 The qualification of VectorWorks in the context of BIM would be interesting, also from an academic point of view. Nemetschek clearly markets it as such and they give their own definition about it. http://www.nemetschek.net/bim/articles.php http://www.nemetschek.net/bim/anderson_whitepaper.php When I used MiniCAD and the first editions of VectorWorks, while working at an architecture office, I would not qualify it as BIM, but the application has clearly grown since. On the last demo I saw, earlier this year, I discussed this with the reseller and he was convinced about it's CAD features, but mentioned clear limitations that hinder it to work according to a full BIM approach. On the other hand, I would personally classify AutoCAD Architecture as a true BIM application, despite some (many) limitations. (FWIW, I am an ArchiCAD user) The qualification of VectorWorks in the context of BIM would be interesting, also from an academic point of view. Nemetschek clearly markets it as such and they give their own definition about it. http://www.nemetschek.net/bim/articles.php
http://www.nemetschek.net/bim/anderson_whitepaper.php

When I used MiniCAD and the first editions of VectorWorks, while working at an architecture office, I would not qualify it as BIM, but the application has clearly grown since. On the last demo I saw, earlier this year, I discussed this with the reseller and he was convinced about it’s CAD features, but mentioned clear limitations that hinder it to work according to a full BIM approach.

On the other hand, I would personally classify AutoCAD Architecture as a true BIM application, despite some (many) limitations.

(FWIW, I am an ArchiCAD user)

]]> By: Patrick C. Suermann, P.E. http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26092 Patrick C. Suermann, P.E. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:13:36 +0000 http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26092 I also agree that this is an excellent book. However, I also keyed in on your VectorWorks reference in your article. Regardless of any labels, VectorWorks *was considered* in the recent BIM Interoperability Summit from the Federal Facilities Council and buildingSmart North America workshop/demo at the end of July. In fact, it beat out the most used tool in the industry (Revit) and received a 7/10 from the judges Bill East and Nick Nisbet. See more information here: http://www.buildingsmartalliance.org/news/20080723.php I also agree that this is an excellent book. However, I also keyed in on your VectorWorks reference in your article. Regardless of any labels, VectorWorks *was considered* in the recent BIM Interoperability Summit from the Federal Facilities Council and buildingSmart North America workshop/demo at the end of July. In fact, it beat out the most used tool in the industry (Revit) and received a 7/10 from the judges Bill East and Nick Nisbet. See more information here:
http://www.buildingsmartalliance.org/news/20080723.php

]]> By: Wes Macaulay http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26091 Wes Macaulay Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:30 +0000 http://aecbytes.com/blog/2008/08/28/the-bim-handbook-book-review/#comment-26091 You asked in your article why VectorWorks isn't mentioned in the book. I think it would have confused readers had it been mentioned: I would not categorize VW as being BIM-capable. It is neither as scalable nor capable of creating the data that the other BIM apps can. That VectorWorks is marketed as BIM clouds the waters for those trying to determine what direction to take if they want to become BIM-capable. Or had VW been mentioned in the book, then it would need disclaiming just as AutoCAD Architecture got from the book -- these programs don't create whole buildings; they create pieces that are cobbled together to form a whole. You asked in your article why VectorWorks isn’t mentioned in the book. I think it would have confused readers had it been mentioned: I would not categorize VW as being BIM-capable. It is neither as scalable nor capable of creating the data that the other BIM apps can. That VectorWorks is marketed as BIM clouds the waters for those trying to determine what direction to take if they want to become BIM-capable. Or had VW been mentioned in the book, then it would need disclaiming just as AutoCAD Architecture got from the book — these programs don’t create whole buildings; they create pieces that are cobbled together to form a whole.

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